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( Naar de Nederlandse vertaling.) Women belong at home - in the kitchen - to raise the kids. They should play piano, violin or flute. Old fashioned thoughts .... That opinion has long been superseded: enjoy this contribution about women-in-jazz.
The Ingenues serenading the cows for the University of Wisconsin in a scientific test of whether the cows would give more milk to the soothing strains of music.
A few weeks ago Jo posted a great contribution, titled Vibraphoniawhere he introduced us a film fragment played by a female marimba band headed by a certain Reg Kehoe playing Larry Clinton's A Study In Brown ca. 1940. A few days ago I was pointed to another great fragment by Enrico B. by The Ingénues, an all-female band, that made a great film in 1928 playing some 1920s hits. Enjoy a fragment of this film
When you have listened carefully you must have heard tunes come by like Keep Sweeping the Cobwebs off the Moon, Changes, Mighty Lak’ a Rose, Shaking the Blues Away and the good old Tiger Rag, but to be honest ..... I was fascinated by all those girls playing in this not so common setting; a 1920s dance band. These All-Girl orchestras were popular in the 1920s and born out of the minstrel groups late 1900s, where women appeared in bands like the Madame Rentz's Female Minstrels or the Colored Female Brass Band. During the change of the century women were active at home, in the classical repertoire playing the piano, the violin or the harp. Looking to these women, playing saxophones in all sizes ( even a baritone sax), brass instruments, like the tuba, I wonder how the director of such a band selected all these girls with their special qualities - as a genius on their instrument or as a female-as-sex object....... Okay, I agree, the lady on the clarinet better could have used her stick playbacked and the numerous of accordions, hidden behind their stools, feel commically. One of the popular all-women bands of the 1920s was the Parisian Redheads, later renamed as the Bricktops.
The Parisean Redheads ( thanks to their red heads)
In the book Stormy Weather, The Music and lives of a century of jazzwomen by Linda Dahl is a great source when you love to understand these bands. In the Depression years there were a lot of those all-women orchestras, founded to make money and, as the book reads, Women bandleaders and players were picked for their physical assets as much as for their musicianship: hence the group billed as "The Band with a Bosom".One of the regular band leaders of the Hit of the week orchestras was Phil Spitalny who founded during the late 1930s and 1940s an All-Girl Band which became very famous. I found a fragment of this band, made late 1930s I guess, where they play the Tiger Rag. It is a pity that the music is very soft, but the fragment is so rare and special that I love to share it with you. So open your speakers .... and enjoy.
These typically phenomenon of All-Women Bands became popular in the 1940s, but it was, like the decades before, most vaudeville and musicto dance they played. Of course there were bands that played jazz or women that became great jazz instrumentalists ( I am not talking of women vocalists now), like Lil Hardin, Emma Barrett (I must talk about her in a next blog sometimes), Beryl Booker or Marian McPartland to name some known and less known women in jazz.
The tuba player of the Phil Spitalny All-Girl Band
I found a fragment from a typically All-Women Band from the 1940s too, the band of Thelma White and her All Girl Orchestra in a film from ca. 1946. (Mind the sound level)
Another phenomenon that needs some more study, in my opinion, are the so-called Sisters and Brothers vocal groups, vocal groups, of men or women who are related to each other by family. Well known are the Mills Brothers, the Boswell Sisters and the Andrew Sisters, but there were numerous others, most of them now almost forgotten, like TheBrian Sisters, Ponce Sisters, Pickens Sisters, Keller Sisters, Bronx Sisters, Trix Sisters, Williams Sisters, MacDowell Sisters, Zurik Sisters and Kordt Sisters. I also could make a list from brother vocal groups, although it seems that that list is much shorter.Are there readers of this blog who have studied these groups and love to share their knowledge with us? If you're the one or you konw someone who has that knowledge, please contact me: keepswinging@live.nl
Vrouwen horen thuis - in de keuken - hun recht is hun aanrecht - Ze horen piano, viool of dwarsfluit te spelen, de kinderen op te voeden .......Ouderwetse gedachten, die al lang achterhaald zijn .... zelfs in de vorige eeuw. Je komt er meer over te weten in deze bijdrage over vrouwen-in-de-jazz.
The Ingenues spelen in opdracht van de Universiteit van Wisconsin in een koeienstal in de hoop dat het de melkproductie zou stimuleren.
Een paar weken geleden postte Jo een bijdrage, getiteldVibraphonia waarin hij een filmfragment liet zien van een vrouwelijke marimbaband bijgestaan door Reg Kehoe, die Larry Clinton's A Study In Brown rond 1940. Een paar dagen geleden wees Enrico B. me op een ander fragment van The Ingénues, een all-female band, een band die helemaal uit vrouwen bestaat, in een film uit 1928. Ze spelen daar een serie titels die in die tijd populair waren. Geniet ervan.
Als je goed geluisterd hebt zou je nu wellicht de gespeelde nummers herkent hebben: Keep sweeping the cobwebs off the moon, Changes, Mighty lak’ a Rose, Shaking The Blues Away and the good old Tiger Rag, maar eerlijk gezegd heb ik het moeten opzoeken want ik was gefascineerd door wat ik te zien kreeg; al dat vrouwelijk schoons in een niet alledaagse setting. Deze All-Girl orkesten waren populair in de jaren twintig en tijdens de Depressie en waren voortgekomen vanuit de traditie van de Minstrelgroepen, waarin al voor 1900 vrouwen dit soort groepen vormden: the Madame Rentz's Female Minstrels en the Colored Female Brass Band zijn daar voorbeelden van. Tijdens de eeuwwisseling, rond 1900, waren de vrouwen voornamelijk thuis actief, en als ze muziek maakten dan was dat klassieke muziek op piano, harp of viool. Als je naar deze vrouwen kijkt, die alle soorten saxofoons spelen (tot de baritonsax toe). blaasinstrumenten waaronder de tuba, dan vraag ik me af hoe de dirigent deze dames heeft gevonden en op welke gronden hij ze heeft geselecteerd: op het feit dat ze een specifiek instrument konden bespelen of op hun vrouw-zijn. Okay, ik geef toe, in het geval van de klarinettiste is dat overduidelijk; zij zou er beter aan doen te playbacken en al die accordeons, die ineens van onder de stoel te voorschijn komen, maakt het geheel tot een haast komische act. Eén van die all-women bands uit de jaren twintig waren de Parisian Redheads, later hernoemd als the Bricktops. The Parisian Redheads ( = naar de kleur van de hoedjes denk ik)
In het boek Stormy Weather, The Music and lives of a century of jazzwomen, geschreven door Linda Dahl staat onder andere de geschiedenis van deze bands beschreven.
Tijdens de Depressietijd (begin jaren dertig) zien we een toename van dit soort orkesten, opgericht, zo zegt het boek, to make money (= om geld mee te verdienen). Women bandleaders and players were picked for their physical assets as much as for their musicianship: hence the group billed as "The Band with a Bosom". ( = Vrouwelijke bandleidsters en spelers werden zowel uitgezocht op hun uiterlijk als op hun muzikale kwaliteiten: wat te denken van een groep genaamd Band-met-een-boezem). Eén van de vaste bandleiders, die voor Durium platen maakten was Phil Spitalny, weliswaar een man, maar dat belemmerde hem niet een All-Girl band op te richten die in de jaren dertig en veertig heel populair werd. Ik vond een fragment uit de jaren dertig waarin hij te zien en te horen is met zijn band in de Tiger Rag. Helaas is het geluid erg zacht, dus zet je luidsprekers open; het fragment is zo bijzonder en zeldzaam dat ik het jullie niet wilde onthouden.
Dit typische fenomeen van all-women bands was ook populair in de veertiger jaren, maar dan is de muziek veranderd in meer swing en jive muziek. Toch komt het peil van de meeste damesorkesten uit de eerste helft van de Twintigste eeuw niet uit boven het niveau van vaudeville of amusementsorkest. Natuurlijk waren er ook vrouwen die wel jazz speelden op hun instrumenten ( zangeressen lat ik hier buiten beschouwing), zoals Lil Hardin, Emma Barrett (ik kom zeker nog eens op haar terug), Beryl Booker of Marian McPartland om maar eens even wat bekende en minder bekende namen te noemen. De tuba-speler van de Phil Spitalny All-Girl Band
Ik vond een fragment van zo'n typische voorbeeld uit de jaren veertig (1946) van de Thelma White and her All Girl Orchestra(Denk aan het geluidsniveau)
Een andere verschijnsel rond vrouwen-in-de-jazz waren de Sisters Trios, met de mannelijke tegenhanger de Brother Quartets; zanggroepen die een familierelatie hadden. Wie kent niet de Mills Brothers, the Boswell Sisters en de Andrew Sisters? Maar stiller wordt het als we meer namen willen; namen als The Brian Sisters, Ponce Sisters, Pickens Sisters, Keller Sisters, Bronx Sisters, Trix Sisters, Williams Sisters, MacDowell Sisters, Zurik Sisters en de Kordt Sisters - allemaal nu vergeten zanggroepen. Zo'n lijst kan eer natuurlijk ook gemaakt worden met Brothers Groups ... maar die wordt een stuk kleiner. Is er iemand onder de lezers die kennis opgebouwd heeft over dit soort vergeten vrouwen-zang-groepen? Het zou mooi zijn als we daar eens aandacht aan konden besteden. Ken je iemand die dat zou kunnen, laat hem dan contact opnemen of stur me een mailtje:keepswinging@live.nl
AT RANDOM: ARREPIADO - GLAUCO VIANA. Brazilian musician recorded in 1928 for Parlophon
Julian CANNONBALL Adderley was called CANNONBALL because of his good apetite. ( = vanwege zijn eetlust). Thanks all for posting this. - Iederen dank voor zijn inbreng.
12 maart / March 12th: 1928:
stack o' lee blues / moani ke ala / drowsy waters / lepe ulaula / hue hue hue hue = sam ku west harmony boys
when / i'm winging home like a bird that's on the wing = paul whiteman o
Thanks a lot, Hans, for this great contribution about the all-girls bands - a neglected chapter of the story of jazz. YouTube has been out of order at my spot of the globe, so I have to wait viewing the videos inserted - I can hardly wait ...!
Hello Hans from the Pacific Northwest USA- I was just searching for info on the Ponce Sisters myself when I ran across your site. I 1st noticed them in the special features of the dvd Broadway Melody from 1929. They were among the many acts in 6 Movietone Revues, singing "10 Little Miles From Town" about a restful bungalow, and one about a sexy girl(how sexy? "You Have No Idea") who among other things has "wrecked the Princeton football team" and can even make you cheer for Yale"! From another site(Dismuke's Message Board) I got the info that Ethel and Dorothea Ponce were daughters of Phil Ponce, a composer, author and radio exec from New York. They were born just prior to WWI and were active c. 1925-33 on stage, radio and records. Check out the revues if you get a chance-they are hysterical. I like your site! JC
Greetings, Hans ..from Central Coast California. I have a few itms from all-girl bands from the swing era. 8X10 glossies of Ina Ray Hutton and Her Melodears : a head shot of Ina Ray and a band photo of Ina Ray playing clarinet, a singer sitting on a table, a trumpet player with a hat for a muzzle, a drummer partially obscured, and what appears to be a keys player sitting down.
A publicity 8X10 of Ruth Hutchins ( Thrasher ), harpist with the Brick Tops, inscribed w/ sig and dated Jan 2, 1934 / Indpl, Ind.
8X10 of Miss Lucille Hopper - Banjoist - Bernie and Hoppie Team inscribed and signed "Hoppy" .
5X7 publicity card of "The Bon Johns Girls" hand block printing on back: SINCERELY YOURS "BON JOHN GIRLS" , but no signature.
I just acquired an album of personal photo's of the Andrews Sisters, taken by a friend in 1941 in San Francisco. 26 in all. ( There are other photo's of other people pasted on the back ). Lots of performance photo's and candid street shots of Patty and Maxene shopping and touring with friends. Also, a hand written note signed by both Patty and Maxene, in pencil.
My name is Joseph S. Rank . I will send you an email with some image attachments.
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Thanks a lot, Hans, for this great contribution about the all-girls bands - a neglected chapter of the story of jazz.
YouTube has been out of order at my spot of the globe, so I have to wait viewing the videos inserted - I can hardly wait ...!
Jo
Hello Hans from the Pacific Northwest USA-
I was just searching for info on the Ponce Sisters myself when I ran across your site. I 1st noticed them in the special features of the dvd Broadway Melody from 1929. They were among the many acts in 6 Movietone Revues, singing "10 Little Miles From Town" about a restful bungalow, and one about a sexy girl(how sexy? "You Have No Idea") who among other things has "wrecked the Princeton football team" and can even make you cheer for Yale"!
From another site(Dismuke's Message Board) I got the info that Ethel and Dorothea Ponce were daughters of Phil Ponce, a composer, author and radio exec from New York. They were born just prior to WWI and were active c. 1925-33 on stage, radio and records.
Check out the revues if you get a chance-they are hysterical. I like your site! JC
Greetings, Hans ..from Central Coast California.
I have a few itms from all-girl bands from the swing era. 8X10 glossies of Ina Ray Hutton and Her Melodears : a head shot of Ina Ray and a band photo of Ina Ray playing clarinet, a singer sitting on a table, a trumpet player with a hat for a muzzle, a drummer partially obscured, and what appears to be a keys player sitting down.
A publicity 8X10 of Ruth Hutchins ( Thrasher ), harpist with the Brick Tops, inscribed w/ sig and dated Jan 2, 1934 / Indpl, Ind.
8X10 of Miss Lucille Hopper - Banjoist - Bernie and Hoppie Team inscribed and signed "Hoppy" .
5X7 publicity card of "The Bon Johns Girls" hand block printing on back: SINCERELY YOURS "BON JOHN GIRLS" , but no signature.
I just acquired an album of personal photo's of the Andrews Sisters, taken by a friend in 1941 in San Francisco. 26 in all. ( There are other photo's of other people pasted on the back ). Lots of performance photo's and candid street shots of Patty and Maxene shopping and touring with friends.
Also, a hand written note signed by both Patty and Maxene, in pencil.
My name is Joseph S. Rank . I will send you an email with some image attachments.
Keep Swinging !
Thanks Joseph for your message - please contact me at keepswinging@live.nl
Hans
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