Who is who?
( Naar de Nederlandse vertaling.)
Enrico Borsetti pointed me to a silent film that belongs in the archives of Mark Cantor, the well known jazz-film collector. I remember his thrilling film showings during the annual conventions of the International Association of Jazz Record Collectors. Last time I saw his films was at the Gloria Cinema near the Place Hotel in Copenhagen summmer 2005.
Mark Cantor told me that the pictures showed on this web log are from his archive and were taken from a set of home movies made by Tony Parenti. Tony Parenti was a clarinet and saxophone player, who became known as the substitute for Benny Goodman in the Ben Pollack band and of course with his own bands, like the 1920s Famous Melody Boys, The Liberty Syncopators or the New Orleanians.
On the film you can see five musicians playing. The guitar player must be Eddie Lang and the trombone player Tommy Dorsey. Brother Jimmy Dorsey seems to be on alto saxophone. Mark says: The trumpet player has not been identified, although two suggestions, Mannie Klein or Mickey Bloom, seem reasonable. The pianist is likewise unknown. The current thought is that it might be either Seger Ellis, Jack Russell or Fulton McGrath.
There seems to be a shot made outside ( not published into this selection ). In that photo of the three musicians standing outside, each next to the other, we almost certainly see the pianist from the jazz combo shorts, Boyd Senter and Larry Abbott.
My suggestion is, that it could be Arthur Schutt at the piano and maybe Fred "Fuzzy" Farrar on trumpet.
Time exposure for the first of November:
1927:
PLAYLIST
horace silver quintet/serenade to a soul sister = verve/next generation-volume 2 = billie holiday/lady in satin = antondo da silva torres/jacare choro frevado = nat shilkret victor o/
Nederlands ( To the English translation )
Enrico Borsetti wees me op een stomme film, die zich in de verzameling van Mark Cantor bevindt, de bekende jazz-film verzamelaar uit de Verenigde Staten. Ik herinner me zijn filmvoorstellingen tijdens de jaarlijkse conventies van de International Association of Jazz Record Collectors. De laatste keer dat ik zijn films zag was in de kleine Gloria Cinema vlak bij het Palace Hotel in Kopenhagen in de zomer van 2005.
Mark Cantor vertelde me dat de foto's, die ik hier in mijn weblog laat zien, uit zijn archief komen en van een serie stomme films afkomen, die gemaakt zijn door Tony Parenti. Tony Parenti speelde rond 1930 klarinet en saxofoon en werd o.a. bekend doordat hij regelmatig Benny Goodman verving in de band van Ben Pollack en uiteraard is hij ook bekend geworden met zijn eigen bands, zoals de Famous Melody Boys, de Liberty Syncopators en de New Orleanians uit de jaren twintig.
Op de film zie je vijf musici spelen. De gitarist is zonder twijfel Eddie Lang en de trombonist Tommy Dorsey. Zijn broer Jimmy zien we op de altsaxofoon. Mark zegt: The trumpet player has not been identified, although two suggestions, Mannie Klein or Mickey Bloom, seem reasonable. The pianist is likewise unknown. The current thought is that it might be either Seger Ellis, Jack Russell or Fulton McGrath. (= De trompettist hebben we nog niet kunnen indentificeren, evenals de pianist. Mannie Klein of Mickey Bloom lijken voor de hand liggende opties. De pianist zou Seger Ellis, Jack Russell of Fulton McGrath geweest kunnen zijn.)
Er is ook een shot, waarin je de drie musici buiten ziet staan. Die foto zit hier niet bij. Daarop staan de onbekende pianist, Boyd Senter en Larry Abbott.
Zelf wil ik wel alvast een duit in het zakje doen: Arthur Schutt aan de piano en Fred "Fuzzy" Farrar op trompet.
Tijdopname voor 1 november:
1927:
SPEELLIJST
horace silver quintet/serenade to a soul sister = verve/next generation-volume 2 = billie holiday/lady in satin = antondo da silva torres/jacare choro frevado = nat shilkret victor o/
Enrico Borsetti pointed me to a silent film that belongs in the archives of Mark Cantor, the well known jazz-film collector. I remember his thrilling film showings during the annual conventions of the International Association of Jazz Record Collectors. Last time I saw his films was at the Gloria Cinema near the Place Hotel in Copenhagen summmer 2005.
Mark Cantor told me that the pictures showed on this web log are from his archive and were taken from a set of home movies made by Tony Parenti. Tony Parenti was a clarinet and saxophone player, who became known as the substitute for Benny Goodman in the Ben Pollack band and of course with his own bands, like the 1920s Famous Melody Boys, The Liberty Syncopators or the New Orleanians.
On the film you can see five musicians playing. The guitar player must be Eddie Lang and the trombone player Tommy Dorsey. Brother Jimmy Dorsey seems to be on alto saxophone. Mark says: The trumpet player has not been identified, although two suggestions, Mannie Klein or Mickey Bloom, seem reasonable. The pianist is likewise unknown. The current thought is that it might be either Seger Ellis, Jack Russell or Fulton McGrath.
There seems to be a shot made outside ( not published into this selection ). In that photo of the three musicians standing outside, each next to the other, we almost certainly see the pianist from the jazz combo shorts, Boyd Senter and Larry Abbott.Mark and Enrico love to know the names of the two unknown musicians at the piano and the trumpet.
My suggestion is, that it could be Arthur Schutt at the piano and maybe Fred "Fuzzy" Farrar on trumpet. Thanks Enrico for pointing me to these great shots and Mark for showing us the photos. If you might have a suggestion for the musicians on these photos, please contact me: keepswinging@live.nl
I'll forward all suggestions to Mark and Enrico and publish them in the commands of this blog.
AT RANDOM:
HORACE SILVER QUINTET- Serenade To A Soul Sister
Found Silver opening himself and his music to change on a variety of levels.
HORACE SILVER QUINTET- Serenade To A Soul Sister
Found Silver opening himself and his music to change on a variety of levels.
Blue Note 594322
Time exposure for the first of November:
1927:
- any time at all / fiddlin' blues = herman tilburg co
1937:
- rock it for me = chick webb othings are looking up = teddy wilson o
PLAYLIST
horace silver quintet/serenade to a soul sister = verve/next generation-volume 2 = billie holiday/lady in satin = antondo da silva torres/jacare choro frevado = nat shilkret victor o/
Nederlands ( To the English translation )
Enrico Borsetti wees me op een stomme film, die zich in de verzameling van Mark Cantor bevindt, de bekende jazz-film verzamelaar uit de Verenigde Staten. Ik herinner me zijn filmvoorstellingen tijdens de jaarlijkse conventies van de International Association of Jazz Record Collectors. De laatste keer dat ik zijn films zag was in de kleine Gloria Cinema vlak bij het Palace Hotel in Kopenhagen in de zomer van 2005. Mark Cantor vertelde me dat de foto's, die ik hier in mijn weblog laat zien, uit zijn archief komen en van een serie stomme films afkomen, die gemaakt zijn door Tony Parenti. Tony Parenti speelde rond 1930 klarinet en saxofoon en werd o.a. bekend doordat hij regelmatig Benny Goodman verving in de band van Ben Pollack en uiteraard is hij ook bekend geworden met zijn eigen bands, zoals de Famous Melody Boys, de Liberty Syncopators en de New Orleanians uit de jaren twintig.Op de film zie je vijf musici spelen. De gitarist is zonder twijfel Eddie Lang en de trombonist Tommy Dorsey. Zijn broer Jimmy zien we op de altsaxofoon. Mark zegt: The trumpet player has not been identified, although two suggestions, Mannie Klein or Mickey Bloom, seem reasonable. The pianist is likewise unknown. The current thought is that it might be either Seger Ellis, Jack Russell or Fulton McGrath. (= De trompettist hebben we nog niet kunnen indentificeren, evenals de pianist. Mannie Klein of Mickey Bloom lijken voor de hand liggende opties. De pianist zou Seger Ellis, Jack Russell of Fulton McGrath geweest kunnen zijn.) Er is ook een shot, waarin je de drie musici buiten ziet staan. Die foto zit hier niet bij. Daarop staan de onbekende pianist, Boyd Senter en Larry Abbott.Mark en Enrico ( en ik natuurlijk ook) zouden graag willen weten wie de twee onbekende musici zijn op piano en trompet.
Zelf wil ik wel alvast een duit in het zakje doen: Arthur Schutt aan de piano en Fred "Fuzzy" Farrar op trompet. Bedankt Enrico voor je suggestie om deze filmfoto's op mijn blog te publiceren en Mark, bedankt voor de foto's zelf. Als iemand een suggestie heeft wie deze twee musici zijn, meld het dan op keepswinging@live.nl . Alle suggesites lees je in het commentaarvak hieronder en ik zal ze doorsturen aan Mark en Enrico.
AT RANDOM:
HORACE SILVER QUINTET - Serenade To a Soul Sister
Een begin van een muzikale ommekeer voor Silver op allerlei niveaus.
HORACE SILVER QUINTET - Serenade To a Soul Sister
Een begin van een muzikale ommekeer voor Silver op allerlei niveaus.
Blue Note 594322
Tijdopname voor 1 november:
1927:
- any time at all / fiddlin' blues = herman tilburg co
1937:
- rock it for me = chick webb othings are looking up = teddy wilson o
SPEELLIJST
horace silver quintet/serenade to a soul sister = verve/next generation-volume 2 = billie holiday/lady in satin = antondo da silva torres/jacare choro frevado = nat shilkret victor o/
Labels: eddie lang, jazz film, jimmy dorsey, tommy dorsey, tony parenti
posted by Anonymous at 5:51 AM
5 Comments:
I posted my suggestions in the blog itself also, but i'll [post it hear too !!
My thoughts are Arthur Schutt at the piano and maybe Fred Fuzzy Farrar on trumpet.
Keep swinging
Hans
Dear Hans,
The pianist is familiar to me, but I can't recall why.
For some reason Rube Bloom springs to mind but, in a quick search, I could not find a photograph of him.
I do not believe that it is Arthur Schutt, who had a 'sharper' nose.
I agree that it is the Dorseys and Lang, but the trumpet player is not immediately identifiable.
Based on this personnel and Parenti's involvement, it could be the Fred Rich band c.1930.
Kind regards,
Bill.
The piano player is Milfred Garcia.
Great unknown Spanish pianmo artist, from Gypsy roots, and known to be quite a slick gambler.
Disappeared in 1931.
Never heard from again
Lowell X
As I can identify by looking at them from various stages of theirs careers, Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey are 100% sure members of this band.
Hans, please look at the PM I've sent you from Organissimo board (I'm under the nick "mmilovan" there), it is another film clip with George Van Eps and Jo Stafford as sure musicans, but noone we can recognize.
Hi--
I saw your website with the pictures of the old bands, and I really think that the trumpet player in question is not Mickey Bloom. Mickey was my uncle, and although I did not know him at that time in his life, it really does not look like him. He spoke about Manny Klein often, and it could be him, but I never met Manny and so I don't know.
Dick F.
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